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Yk Vivillon? The pokemon which has about 20 different forms(excluding the pride and cocktaillon)?
Out of all those form, wouldn't it be boring for all spewpa to just evolve and have the same pink wings?

Im suggesting that when a spewpa evolve, it's pattern will be selected randomly(excluding pokeball, pride, fancy, and cocktaillon). This will make the vivillon line more interesting since their evolution has some sort of gacha mechanic. This will also make a patterned vivillon shiny hunting way easier.

But if the spewpa evolve into a random pattern of vivillon, wouldn't it be hard to shiny hunt a specific pattern?
Well glad you asked!
Lets just make when a scatterbug hatch, it will have a random chance(1/17) for a spesific pattern. But if the scatterbug holds an everstone, the chance will be narrowed down to 1/2 or 1/1, depending of the parent it was bred with. If the parent vivillon were a pokeball, pride, or fancy pattern, then the random chance will be 1/18(17 normal pattern + 1 event pattern). Just a note, if a normal or event vivillon is bred with Cocktaillon, then the offspring will still be unable to evolve into cocktaillon unless the offspring is a scattercube.
Example:

This will bring a new kind of challenge for those shiny hunters to collect all shiny vivillon and mobile players will have access to get an "Origin. Trainer" patterned Vivillon.

Extra:
This one will probably not be accepted but theres no wrong in trying.
What if.. there was an npc that is willing to trade a special egg for a shiny patterned vivillon(one of the 17 normal ones). The special egg will be.. another Vivillon.. with the same patten.. but mega-able! :D
Note:
If the extra part is thought to be violating the "Events" part of the Suggestion Guide [v. 2.0], then I will make this straight. This is not an event since the npc would be available for all year around. It will be more of a "quest" rather than an "event"

Welp, I really hope my idea can be accepted by the admins bc I personally think that it's a good idea and some other players also would like to see more shiny patterned Vivillon in this game. Anyways, KaruBin, out!

(My hand hurts bc I've been typing this for like 45 minutes straight bru T^T)

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Wouldn’t it remove the entire purpose of Safari Zone? It’s pretty bad for anything outside of getting the safari legends and Vivillon patterns. While I do agree that shiny Vivillon patterns are pretty tough to get, it’d leave SZ even more useless than it already is. Although, I do think people should be able to get event Vivillon patterns outside of said events.

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Though not supporting this, I still can see why this is a neat idea.
Perhaps, the form of vivillon be dependent on the country (or IP) of the user evolving it? For example, im from philippines, so any spewpa evolved by me will automatically be of monsoon pattern.

Edit: Oh, didnt know PFQ has that mechanic. Never played that site long enough.

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@~razpberry PFQ has a similar thing and I despise it. It makes it so you need to search for another person with a specific Vivillon pattern if you want to shiny hunt. It'd be a cool idea if it was dependant on the country you have selected, but ID seems pretty bad.

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@Drakonia , it will probably make the safari vivillon hunts a bit more useless but the problem here is, not all players get access to the safari zones. Some players in pokeheroes are playing using mobile device which makes them unable to get any OT patterned vivillon. It will also make it a bit harder for mobile players to get patterned vivillon, thus, it will create a disadvantage for mobile players who wants to get a patterned vivillon.
Hope this can answers :)

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I'm mostly mobile since my computer takes like 10 minutes to turn on. I just generally think SZ should be ore accessible for mobile users.

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That would be an alternate for this idea, but won't the mobile players still have a disadvantage while playing in the SZ? I mean, small screen, big finger(I think for some people), won't it be harder for mobile players to play? Imagine trying to catch a marine vivillon for example, but because of the small screen it's harder for you to aim. It will create another problem which is laptop/computer player getting more advantage than the mobile players in the SZ.
Hope this can answer again 🙏

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I like this idea but it would remove the point of the safari zone
Also, breeding the 2 vivillons of the same type should increase the chance of it hatching that type, not guarantee it.
How does it evolve with an everyone on it?

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This will make the SZ a bit more useless, but not completely. The SZ still have a use which is to get the force of nature pokemon. I think rotom is also obtained from the SZ too and it can only be bred by ditto. And rotom is also in the special rarity which means you can't use the gem collector to shiny hunt it. What I'm trying to say in this statement is that the SZ will still be in a use, but not that much anymore for Vivillon.


Oh ya- abt the everstone, I completely forgot about it, my bad :/
Also good eye for catching the fault
Well maybe there could be an evolve button on the top of the screen if you are viewing the pokemon profile(like when you wanna evolve slowyore). "Your Spewpa looks like it wants to evolve. Should you let it evolve?"


And for the guaranteed stuff, i took this concept from irl animals. Like if u breed a white and black cat, the offspring will be like either black or white(in this case random pattern). But if both the parents are white, then the offspring will often be white too.

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I like the idea but I think instead of having to give everstones we could have their breeding similar to the minior colours. So if you breed vivillion marine with another marine, you will still get scatterbug but a slight chance of it being marine. (Maybe similar percentage as the minior colours)

If it's marine and you scan the egg it could say Scatterbug (marine) then you are guaranteed to evolve it into vivillion marine. That way you won't get messed up or forget to give an everstone.

This way it's still not very easy to get and people who don't have a laptop or can't use safari zone are able to get their OT.

I agree with Joyfuldoggy's addition

About the event patterns being added to the evolution pool though, that's a no

Vivillon (Pride) is not even required for dex, so there's no need to make it a possible evolution. Idk, I like how it's a special pokemon for pride month. Unless Riako introduces a new pride-exclusive pokemon, I don't support this part.

For Vivillon (Pokeball) and (Fancy), I get how frustrating it is that ones of the dex required pokemon is event-locked, however, the berry battle does not look like a very easy game, especially since there was a daily ranking. It'd be way too easy to get one if it's added to the evolution pool. I've never actually participated in the berry battle though, so I'd let others decide.

About the extra part, we've never had a mega-able be locked to a "quest" though, and I don't think we should. Also, have some pity to the people on pokedex ranklist/people who want a full living dex, that would mean they have to hunt shiny vivillon 17 times (34 if they're doing shiny dex) and get 17 mega stones for the mega evolution. And the spriters would have to make 17 new sprites :/

I don't think people are likely to exchange their shiny for a mega able. You get mega ables from breeding but a slight chance. If it's SM then they will definitely say yes XD

I think the spriters won't mind spriting a mega of them if they liked the idea of making them MA

I don't think MA Vivillon is a good idea economically. If they're obtainable from breeding, what's the point? If they are only obtainable from the quest, getting one SM Viv. would be much harder (originally thought it'd be 80 times harder due to the shiny odds, but I completely neglected that all of them would be MA. Still a pain-chain. I'm pretty sure normal SM chains take less than 80 shinies on avarage, though.). Possibly they could come with an increased shiny chance (4/5% perhaps?)? The odds seem high, but it's still 20/25 shinies on avarage, and that's quite a lot of shinies considering we're talking about Vivillon patterns.

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@Himari , ah, my bad. I just realized that you can't breed event vivillon(Idk this real or no, I just opened the wiki). Well that means that the event patterned Vivillon breeding is off the board(unused now). Only the normal patterned Vivillon idea left :)

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@joyfuldoggy , thats a good idea. I can agree to this since it does not change the idea of patterned Vivillon breeding. It's up to the mods now to either use the everstone idea or use this idea since I also think that this could be an alternate for mine :D

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@Drakonia , maybe the egg will be something like the missing no mechanic which is after some trades then the Vivillon will be a SM. Ik it will prob be too much w for the player, but before the player even get SM, they have to trade a few shinies for mega which will make them lose something but also gain something in return.

The trading shiny for a mega is only optional as I stated in the main post, "Extra". The mega is just some extra idea so if you guys dont agree to the mega part, it's okay. What I'm really trying to suggest is about the Vivillon breeding mechanic.

Hope this answers.

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I've edited the main post to adjust to some of your opinion :)

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Bump!

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Bump! :'/

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Bump ;'/

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This suggestion has received less than 60% support and was moved to rejected.

Total votes: 27
Support ratio: 44.4%

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